does your microwave screw with your wifi?
- February 10th, 2015
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Does your microwave screw with your LAN’s wifi signal? It might well. Depending upon your microwave and wifi, it could be pretty severe. In our case, the microwave would stop wifi in the whole west end of the lair.
This happens because microwave ovens can throw out a lot of radio interferences in the 2.4Ghz range, and that’s where 802.11b, g, and n all operate. Now, sure, you can upgrade your equipment to dual-band 5.0Ghz/2.4Ghz gear, but that’s annoying, and costs money, and a lot of your devices won’t upgrade anyway.
So I started thinking about how this could happen, because I know the requirements for microwave oven shielding. Microwaves ovens are basically grounded metal boxes – I saw someone jokingly suggest putting your microwave into a Faraday cage, but these ovens basically are Faraday cages, so that won’t help. Okay, yes, the glass front isn’t a solid sheet of metal, but that grating that makes it hard to see through the glass is there for a reason, and it’s reasonably effective as shielding.
Then I realised one part of the oven isn’t shielded. Typically, it’s not shielded at all. It’s the power cord. Which makes the power cord a transmission antenna for microwave oven RF noise.
Now, thanks to all the RF issues we were having with the studio wiring last year, I’d stocked up on things called RF chokes. They’re used to filter out radio noise. This is all very high frequency noise, so you need ferrite chokes, specifically.

Clamp-on ferrite RF choke
They cost less than two dollars. Basically, they convert the RF field coming off the cable into self-cancelling magnetic fields, which – pleasantly – don’t interfere with your wifi. You want a tight fit, because physics reasons.
So I clamped two tight-fighting large ferrites onto the power cable, one on each end, because for all I know the RF issues with our building wiring were making things worse. Also, we seemed to be having a lot of RF coming off that power cord. And we gave it a go.
The wifi hasn’t fallen over while using the microwave once since attaching those chokes. Not even once. We’re still seeing interference – and the resulting slowdown in net performance which results from that interference – but it’s dramatically reduced, and we no longer lose connections and even audio and video streaming keeps going. It’s still an impact, we absolutely see it in performance testing. But it’s no longer an impact that matters.
So, yeah. If you’re seeing this, give it a try. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing all your networking kit.
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Tim Allen would be proud.
By the way, I’m not seeing the Name, E-mail, etc. wording to the left of the boxes for commenting. Current version of Firefox, nothing special that should be changing anything on my end that I can think of.
James: If you’ve posted before, and it knows, it’ll just use those again, and not present the name/etc fields.
Tim Allen, as I understand it, wouldn’t’ve actually fixed the problem. _Supervillains_ fix the _problem_. Sometimes people even survive! But either way, the problem is _fixed_.
I thought microwave ovens operated on 1.45 Ghz-“tuned” for water-which would make for harmonics at 2.9Ghz.(and so on).I might be wrong on that, though. I spent a lot of time at my last two jobs chasing down radio interference ( in PA systems, for the most part), and those clip on ferrite things work great, in addition they’re cheap. If you can find the larger ferrite toroids, you can loop the power cord through them a few times. For *really* stubborn cases, you might have to use one of those choke-and-capacitor-sealed-in-a-can filters.Put it in a metal box, and wire it inline with a multistrip. They’re cheap, usually five bucks or less. Another very cheap and simple fix is to connect two .01uf 2 KV capacitors from both hot and neutral sides of the AC line to ground. If possible, use a cold-water copper water line as ground-works great. Or drive in a ground rod. The ground at the plug isn’t all that great, and in some cases, may not even be connected..
What about grounding the microwave oven’s case? Say, to a cold-water pipe in the kitchen..
What I mean is it currently looks like this for me. I had to highlight ‘Name’ just to see it. I checked in Chrome and IE as well – same thing.
http://i.imgur.com/x4aW72i.jpg
Scott: All that is likely true! But there is still significant noise right in the 2.4Ghz range, I’ve seen it measured and recorded. It’s a big pulse down there too.
As for a DIY ground – well, the oven case should _already_ be grounded. If it is, and you ground it _again_ to something, then you will create a ground _loop_, which creates its own set of problems. So that’s not generally the best idea.
But if you test the ground and find it’s lifted, then yes, fixing that should indeed help, because that will properly ground the microwave’s case.
James: Well… interesting. By which I mean foo. They did a bit update of this comment system plugin I’m using, and I guess some of the custom code I’ve been using is not cooperating with it. I’ll have to see whether I can’t do something to fix that.