{"id":8495,"date":"2016-01-05T12:03:35","date_gmt":"2016-01-05T20:03:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/?p=8495"},"modified":"2016-03-08T19:56:56","modified_gmt":"2016-03-09T03:56:56","slug":"since-gaming-the-hugo-awards-failed-lets-try-goodreads","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2016\/01\/05\/since-gaming-the-hugo-awards-failed-lets-try-goodreads\/","title":{"rendered":"since gaming the hugo awards failed, let&#8217;s try goodreads"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Puppies made another attempt to game a system last week, but it fell apart rather hilariously.<\/p>\n<p>The first notice it got was <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/review\/show\/1305629706?book_show_action=true\">a lot of very negative commentary all at once<\/a> on a negative review of one of the oberpuppyf\u00fchrer Vox Day&#8217;s collections; <a href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=26869&#038;cpage=4#comment-384620\">Lis Carey left a note about it in <i>File 770<\/i>&#8216;s comments section<\/a>. And <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=26897\"><i>File 770<\/i> also found<\/a> a post about it <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.donotlink.com\/hrte\">on Vox&#8217;s blog<\/a>. (Linked via DoNotLink).<\/p>\n<p>Well, it gets dumber from there. Sean O&#8217;Hara started poking around, and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/solarbird.net\/Livejournal\/2016-01\/sean-ohara-goodreads-blog.gif\">found that there was a Secret Puppy Goodreads Group<\/a>*, formed with the explicit intention of gaming the site by bombing &#8220;SJW&#8221; reviewers and authors with negative reviews and ratings, and uprating all Puppy-affiliated works. The problem is, while it was a limited-access group &#8211; well, I&#8217;ll hand it to Sean:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Too bad for him the only thing keeping out the SJWs was a challenge question that could be answered with a simple Google search. By Saturday night I had access to the group. I didn&#8217;t know what to do &#8212; undermine him from the inside, play Serpico and leak screenshots on a piecemeal basis, or save them up for a big reveal. The last one seemed the best way not to get caught until I had a good collection of dirt, and I was strongly leaning in that direction.<\/p>\n<p>But after reading File770&#8217;s news roundup yesterday, which included a story about someone being ganged up on by Day and his goons, I decided it might be better to give warning where I could.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/photo\/group\/170705-chorf-central-command?photo=1368747\">Here are a collection of screenshots from that group<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And apparently, while Goodreads is a bit of a mess sometimes, that was simply too much for them, and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/file770.com\/?p=26905\">they banned the whole lot of them<\/a>, with Vox himself being singled out for permanent lockout.<\/p>\n<p>Vox has, of course, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.donotlink.com\/hsex\">claimed victory<\/a>. (Also a DoNotLink link.)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s kind of sad at this point, really. The problem is that the crazy neighbour is only so funny, because sooner or later, they might just bring in a bunch of friends from out of state and take over a wildlife refuge centre, and <em>then<\/em> it&#8217;s not so much fun anymore.<\/p>\n<p>And since we&#8217;re talking Puppies, I might as well point at <a href=\"http:\/\/scottlynch.us\/blog\/2016\/01\/01\/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-lying-crazypants-liars-who-lie\/\">this takedown by Scott Lynch of John C. Wright&#8217;s accusations against Patrick Nielsen Hayden at Worldcon<\/a>, supported by all witnesses who aren&#8217;t John C. Wright. I don&#8217;t think anyone outside the reactionary rightist circle has a lot of fucks go give about Mr. Wright &#8211; remember, this is the guy who came to my blog threatening to sue me for libel after I quoted him accurately and in context. That&#8217;s the kind of reality-disassociated sad muppet he is. But <a href=\"http:\/\/www.donotlink.com\/hrtd\">I saw his new post, &#8220;Stormbunnies and Crybullies&#8221;<\/a>, responding (quite negatively) to George R. R. Martin&#8217;s recent call for winding down this fanwar, and one paragraph stood out:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But I am a forgiving man, jovial and magnanimous. I make the following peace offer: Go your way. Cease to interfere with me and my livelihood, do your work, cease to libel me and meddle with my affairs, withhold your tongue from venom <b>and your works from wickedness<\/b>, and we shall all get along famously.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Emphasis added.<\/p>\n<p><em>Don&#8217;t write what I don&#8217;t like, and we&#8217;ll get on fine<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m the kind of person he doesn&#8217;t want to exist. I&#8217;m several kinds of people he doesn&#8217;t want to see being written about. (You might recall John as <a href=\"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2015\/04\/since-some-puppies-are-deleting-things\/\">the person who so passionately hated Korra from <i>The Legend of Korra<\/i>, explicitly and specifically because she&#8217;s bi<\/a>. He&#8217;s one of those hate-the-sin love-the-sinners whose idea of &#8220;love&#8221; is making people like me illegal.)<\/p>\n<p>So if we all just stop writing about uppity women and those horrible queers and faggots &#8211; all of whom, as you&#8217;ll recall, <a href=\"http:\/\/postimg.org\/image\/5vx82tkud\/full\/\">should be beaten to death with ax-handles and tire irons<\/a> &#8211; we&#8217;ll get along just fine.<\/p>\n<p>The only &#8216;peace&#8217; these guys can imagine is complete and utter submission to them. No wonder they have such a fascination with ISIL and the like; it&#8217;s a mirror. So do everything by their rules, on their terms, all the time, and always, always give them exactly what they want and do nothing else, and we&#8217;ll be just fine.<\/p>\n<p>Stalin would be proud.<\/p>\n<p>I was thinking about pasting in one of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/CbqZZyg.jpg\">stop liking what I don&#8217;t like<\/a> memes as an ending for this post, but that doesn&#8217;t really work, because that&#8217;s just about childish frustration and confusion. This, by contrast, is childish frustration and confusion <em>pupated into man-child quasi-fascism<\/em>, and I don&#8217;t have a properly-fitting caption.<\/p>\n<p>But I might have a good animated gif.<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media0.giphy.com\/media\/lSiT8Hc8kKIco\/200.gif\"><br \/><i>Even <em>Kylo Ren<\/em> is a more complex character than any of these people.<\/i><\/center><br \/>\n<center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.giphy.com\/media\/vmW5ho3bQjICk\/giphy.gif\"><br \/><i>And I just don&#8217;t know where to go with that.<\/i><\/center><\/p>\n<p>*: <b>eta<\/b>: The original post is missing. I don&#8217;t know why. This was the original link: https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/author_blog_posts\/9683209-you-all-owe-me and <strike>here is a still-valid Google cache as of 2016\/01\/05 21:45 Cascadian Standard Time<\/strike> (cache no longer valid).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>This is part of <a href=\"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2014\/02\/collection-the-sfwa-sexism-and-racism-posts\/\">a series of posts<\/a> on the Sad\/Rabid Puppy candidate slate-based capture of the Hugo Awards, and resulting fallout.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Puppies made another attempt to game a system last week, but it fell apart rather hilariously. 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