{"id":7468,"date":"2015-06-09T16:22:32","date_gmt":"2015-06-09T23:22:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/?p=7468"},"modified":"2015-06-09T16:22:32","modified_gmt":"2015-06-09T23:22:32","slug":"wow-paypal-is-slimy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2015\/06\/09\/wow-paypal-is-slimy\/","title":{"rendered":"wow, paypal is slimy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Paypal has a new trick that makes me want to punch faces with extreme force. I was logging in today to pay for an Orycon membership (because that&#8217;s the only payment they take online), and I got this stop dialogue:<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/solarbird.net\/Livejournal\/2015-06\/paypal-slime.gif\"><br \/><i>Dung.<\/i><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Now, this is a load of donkey dung, because I have a laptop I&#8217;ve been using for exactly this stuff for <em>four years<\/em>. Same laptop. Never even reformatted. But I&#8217;m all, &#8216;okay, fine, whatever.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>They give you two options. One is to receive a phone call at a predetermined number. Another is to verify data. Or let me put that more specifically, like they did: verify <em>public<\/em> data. That&#8217;s an important difference, and they think they&#8217;re being oh-so-very-clever, and I almost fell for it.<\/p>\n<p>See, I didn&#8217;t want to deal with a telephone, so I chose verify data, thinking this would be some sort of account information validation. WRONG. They&#8217;re trolling public records and (presumably) credit report information to tie together a more complete &#8211; meaning more <em>saleable<\/em> &#8211; identity profile, and asking me to &#8220;verify&#8221; data I&#8217;ve never given them, ever. That&#8217;s when I realised what was up.<\/p>\n<p>In short, you&#8217;re not &#8220;verifying&#8221; anything. You&#8217;re drawing them a comprehensive historical map of your life, connecting all the little dots they think they might have for you, on <em>their behalf<\/em>, all under the guise of some sort of security check.<\/p>\n<p>You get: inconvenience and data mining! They get: A far more saleable and more complete historical profile of <em>you<\/em>, under false pretences.<\/p>\n<p>Just to see what happens, I tried my other Paypal account, after verifying my computer on this one. OH LOOK, said Paypal, WE DON&#8217;T RECOGNISE THIS COMPUTER!<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/solarbird.net\/Livejournal\/2015-06\/paypal-slime.gif\"><br \/><i>Dung twice.<\/i><\/center><\/p>\n<p>And the same set of options. So, yeah. If &#8211; or more likely, <em>when<\/em> &#8211; you get this dialogue, pick a disposable number and have them call you and enter a pin. Because this? This is horseshit.<\/p>\n<p>Paypal is just <em>awful<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><b>eta:<\/b> IT GETS WORSE: In comments, check this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>Michael Hanscom<\/b>: Did you see the recent story about their new TOS&#8217;s authorizing robocalls from them or their associates for basically whatever reason they want? It was enough for me to just flat out close my account.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>Really<\/em>. No, I missed that. So either way, you&#8217;re screwed. You give them a legit number they can phonespam <em>or<\/em> you let them datamine you. Awesome. Fuck, I wish I could close my accounts. But I have business need. Goddammit.<\/p>\n<p><b>eta2:<\/b> <a href=\"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/?p=7578\">And here we go &#8211; the first spam call has already arrived<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paypal has a new trick that makes me want to punch faces with extreme force. I was logging in today to pay for an Orycon membership (because that&#8217;s the only payment they take online), and I got this stop dialogue: Dung. Now, this is a load of donkey dung, because I have a laptop I&#8217;ve [&#038;hellip<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7468","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-business-of-indie-music"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7468","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7468"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7468\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7468"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7468"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7468"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}