{"id":10256,"date":"2017-03-29T08:59:53","date_gmt":"2017-03-29T15:59:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/?p=10256"},"modified":"2017-03-29T08:59:53","modified_gmt":"2017-03-29T15:59:53","slug":"a-late-addition-to-an-old-report","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2017\/03\/29\/a-late-addition-to-an-old-report\/","title":{"rendered":"a late addition to an old report"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Remember a long time ago &#8211; like, a little over three years ago &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/09\/ribbon-mic-buildout\/\">I built a ribbon microphone<\/a>? I had all kinds of problems chasing radio interference ghosts and stuff, it was strange and messy but came out with a neat sound in the end.<\/p>\n<p>Except&#8230; even after fixing the RF problems, it was kind of noisy. Not unusably so, not for direct-miking, which is how I&#8217;ve used it, but still&#8230; kinda noisy. Noisier than it should&#8217;ve been.<\/p>\n<p>I rediscovered this when trying to use it in a &#8220;mid-side&#8221; type mic setup with the new RK-47, which I was doing just to see how <Em>that<\/em> would work. (Tony of <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/vixyandtony.com\/\">Vixy &#038; Tony<\/a> has been after me to try that for a while.) And because it involves playing towards a figure-eight microphone from the <em>side<\/eM> &#8211; the point of least sensitivity &#8211; it required enough extra gain that the noisiness became a problem.<\/p>\n<p>Since the special preamp (<a href=\"https:\/\/crimeandtheforcesofevil.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/02\/microphone-preamp-build-report\/\">also a kit<\/a>) was the entry point for the RF noise, and since said amp works with dynamic microphones, I tested <em>that<\/em> for noise, using an SM-58 as input. Dead silent, cranked all the way up. Result: it wasn&#8217;t the microphone preamp&#8217;s fault.<\/p>\n<p>Then I remembered how the RK-47\/990B build manual talked so much about making <em>damn<\/em> sure you had no solder rosin or finger oils at the high-impedence connection points in the circuit, and to just <em>scrub<\/em> those connections with isopropyl alcohol. So I took apart the ribbon microphone, redid those solder connections while I was in there, and then scrubbed the hell out of them. A downright confusing amount of old solder rosin came up when I did so.<\/p>\n<p>Result? Problem <Em>sorted<\/em>. Huge drop in noise. There&#8217;s still a little at the high end at probably more gain than I even need here &#8211; this may be an &#8220;only elves can hear this&#8221; moment, at least in part &#8211; but a little -3db cut starting at 14-15kHz sorts it. It might not even be true noise, it could be something like air movement &#8211; ribbons will pick that up in ways nothing else will, and I didn&#8217;t turn off the HVAC, etc.<\/p>\n<p>So, yeah! Turns out that finicky bit about solder rosin and flux is <em>real important<\/em>, kind of <em>generically<\/eM>, at high impedance. Good to know. (And is why I&#8217;m posting this, and why I&#8217;ll link to it from the old microphone buildout writeups.)<\/p>\n<p>I still have not the vaguest idea why so much rosin ended up on those connection points. Seriously, it&#8217;s weird. That was my old stock of Radio Shack silver solder, which I&#8217;d had since I Don&#8217;t Even Know When, and not the BenzOMatic solder that gave me so many problems. I never noticed it doing that <Em>before<\/em> &#8211; but then again, I wasn&#8217;t really looking. \u00af\\(\u30c4)\/\u00af<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, have a test recording I made at 1:30 yesterday morning trying out that configuration, with the Micparts RK-47\/990B kit mic being used as the &#8220;mid&#8221; and the above-mentioned Austin OTA-1 ribbon microphone as the &#8220;side.&#8221; It&#8217;s intermixed with a recording made simultaneously using a pair of M-Audio Novas in a spread X-Y configuration. Both versions are mixed directly to <em>mono<\/em>, rather than spread-stereo, which is <Em>not<\/em> what you usually do, but does allow maximum left-right placement in a mix.<\/p>\n<p>(This may be called &#8220;T&#8221; rather than &#8220;mid-side&#8221; since mid-side includes a kind of subtractive mixing not used here? I dunno. But this is, again, just a straight mix to mono.)<\/p>\n<p>The recording starts with the RK47\/990B plus OTA 1 pair, then switches back and forth between that and the Novas. Remember: <em>all of this is mono<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"120\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/314964871&amp;color=ff5500&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Kinda neat, eh?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Remember a long time ago &#8211; like, a little over three years ago &#8211; I built a ribbon microphone? I had all kinds of problems chasing radio interference ghosts and stuff, it was strange and messy but came out with a neat sound in the end. 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